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Posted On 08/10/2014 By In Columns, Featured

Good With The Bad: The State Of The WWE Divas Division

Let me talk to ya, I’ve been avoiding this article for awhile. I’ll always talk about the Divas’ Division, but I’ve been avoiding how to talk about the Bellas vs. McMahon feud because I genuinely do not enjoy ranting, raving and writing highly negative articles about wrestling. I am proud to say that the Divas’ Division is one of the key reasons I tune into Raw every week. I realize a lot of people don’t feel that way and that is fine, but their perspective is different from mine because they don’t see the value in the division anymore. The running joke is that it’s a bathroom break, or beer run match. I’m not going to say that I’m always 100% in-tuned with the segment, but that isn’t any different than any other on a weekly basis. I see a lot of value because I see a ton of talent that is going to paint a very good picture over the next few years of WWE programming. This Sunday, we’re going to have two big Divas matches on the Summerslam card. We have AJ vs. Paige which has been wonderful, and we have Brie Bella vs. Stephanie McMahon. Like anything else in this industry, we take the good with the bad. Again, I’m going to do my best to not point fingers, or push blame anywhere, but I’ve avoided this column for a while now because I didn’t want to spread my own crap around too much. I have to write something down on paper, and I have to get my hands a little dirty before Summerslam. I’m just going to state blunt realities about what I see, and if you think I’m right, that’s great. If you disagree, that’s fine. My goal here is to be neither. I want the Divas Division to become more important in the eyes of more fans than ever. I feel like that isn’t happening right now, and I think it’s time to air some of this stuff out, so some of us can look closer at what is really happening.

This is what it should all be about, right? The Divas of WWE have a huge disadvantage when it comes to selling their product. They don’t get to have gimmick matches often, or midcard titles. There is one goal every active Diva should have, and that is to be the champion. It is the only position of real power that the division has. It’s a tough spot to be in because in order for the division to work, the championship needs to be valuable. Therefore, the champion needs to be valuable, and I bolieve that AJ Lee is the best Divas Champion of the last decade. I don’t think that is a debate, but I can prove this point very easily. Remember in 2012 during the Punk/Bryan feud, how over AJ Lee was with the crazy chick gimmick? AJ was the hottest person on the roster which included the WWE Champion and anyone else at the time. I can’t think of another Diva who has ever done that. My point is that AJ defines a decade of women’s wrestling in WWE. She is the top hand of women’s wrestling right now, but she has to play second fiddle to Bella/McMahon on the second biggest show of the year. I understand how these things work. I get that the Bellas sell and who both are respectively in relationships with, but that is what they have. Is anyone going to argue with me that Brie Bella is in this feud with Stephanie because she is the best one for it? I’m not trying to dump on Brie Bella, but the reality is that Stephanie has carried most of this feud by herself. What has Brie done besides call Stephanie a bitch a few times. A lot of the people engulfed in this feud hate Stephanie, they don’t love Brie. Anyone could play Brie Bella’s role here, but it just so happens that Bryan was in The Authority storyline, and Brie just happens to be in love with the right guy at the right time. I think it is a good story that only works because Stephanie McMahon knows what she is doing as a heel. She’s not a wrestler. The build is where she is going to thrive. That would be one thing, if Brie could carry the match to a high level. I hope I’m wrong, but Brie just isn’t good enough to carry a non-wrestler to a high level. The in-ring work doesn’t matter sometimes. Austin/McMahon was sloppy as hell, but the story was great. Brie/Stephanie is a good story because of what was there before, not what is being created. It’s cheap storytelling. Not because it plays the obvious, but because almost no work went into creating it. The angle was just sitting there to keep Daniel Bryan’s spirit alive through Brie while he is injured. No one should have a problem with Brie getting the rub off her husband’s talent, but some fans need to acknowledge that this is what is building Brie Bella. Not her ring work, certainly not her mic skills or overall persona. Her build is coming from her injured husband, and the heel work of Stephanie McMahon. She’s the luckiest Diva in the world right now.

That is literally what is happening to the division right now. Stephanie is making it look bad because she’s going against the wrong person. It really should be AJ vs. McMahon. There have been two main event segments that Stephanie has dominated on the microphone. All the while, Paige’s transcendence into the next big heel in the division is flourishing. AJ and Paige work so well together because their feud is about being the best. At Wrestlemania 30, AJ defeated every single active competitor in a single match. The next night, Paige defeated AJ one on one for the title. If AJ can beat the entire division in one match, and Paige can beat AJ clean, then Paige is the best female wrestler in the world, right? A few months later, AJ returns and takes the throne back only to awaken Paige to truly challenge her for the keys to the kingdom. It’s a good story that is really about who is the best. It is classic wrestling 101. Despite that fact, McMahon/Bella gets to main event Raw two weeks in a row because Brie is feuding with a McMahon. The Divas title that should be the apex of the division is taking a backseat. I’m not saying to get rid of anything. I just want people to acknowledge certain truths. Such as the fact that Bella/McMahon is getting more time, and more exposure than the championship. There is a place for both stories, but not at the expense of the title. That is why a lot of people look at the Divas’ matches as a beer run. The title hasn’t been treated properly for a long time. Not even AJ has been so fortunate. Look at Wrestlemania 30, the AJ vs. The World match that was the high point of the division was the pallet cleanser between Brock Lesnar breaking The Streak, and Daniel Bryan FINALLY winning the championship. You must see how much that sucks for them. I sure do.

There is too much talent in the division right now to pander to sub-par talent that are where they are because of how they look (Eva Marie), their bad attitude (Cameron), or even their personal lives (Bellas). There is better talent that is coming up through Sara Del Rey’s magnificent work behind the scenes who are going to blow a lot of the ladies out of the water. NXT is flourishing with Charlotte at the helm. Bayley, Becky and Sasha Banks are all solid hands. Natalya is killing it with Tyson Kidd. Paige is only 22. Naomi, Fox and Tamina are okay talents. Despite having trouble behind the scenes, Emma is just waiting for some time to wrestle. Emma vs. AJ would be really fun too. Women’s wrestling in WWE is turning for the better, but it’s things like Total Divas and Brie vs. Stephanie that are holding it back because it is about look and not the substance. Wrestling fans notice EVERYTHING, and if we really don’t like something as one, we’ll kill it, or ignore it until it goes away. Those beer runs at the events go into the pockets of the venue, not WWE.

Maybe, we get a Nikki heel turn and it is Bella vs. Bella and then everyone can see what they really all. The fact is that the bar is being raised right now in women’s wrestling. Over the next few years, a lot of fat of the division in WWE is going to get trimmed off as the product gets better, and new talent comes in. There are a ton of better female wrestlers outside the WWE, and if there was a division good enough for them. They would come to be a part of it. The pieces are there to build the division to be better than Lita, or Trish ever had it. Actually, THAT is what the division really needs. It needs a Lita. Not Lita per say, but the spirit of Lita. Think about how the wrestling in the division really is. A ton of on the mat, submission and general stuff. There isn’t a high flyer to provide any explosiveness to matches. All Divas wrestle the same in the division, and a female wrestler who was willing to take risks would make a killing right now with the audience. The division needs something different to watch. These kind of ideas are what is lacking in the division because the powers that be are content with Stephanie making the division look stupid on the mic while the Divas title and best wrestlers get less exposure. I think everyone needs to try harder to make it feel important. I think women’s wrestling can be something that everyone would tune in to see every week. I think it is being held back. I think Stephanie needs to win at Summerslam. I think this year’s Wrestlemania has AJ vs. Stephanie. I think that is the biggest match possible within the next six months, and the best should be able to showcase their best on the grandest stage of them all. Show me that feud, and talk to me about women’s wrestling being boring.

What do you think? Comment below with your thoughts, opinions, feedback and anything else that was raised.

  • Jon Harris

    great article and u made some great points and i am a huge AJ LEE fan and i like paige to and the diva division is getting better and better these days

    • Sir William McCormick

      Thanks, I just tried to say something that’s been building for awhile, but no one said it on paper.

  • http://wrestlingfan.net RReigns121314

    Bring back Eve, Kaitlyn, Maryse and Beth Pheonix and the divas division would be/get even better

    • eXtremeAJ

      it’s not about that. It’s all about the bad booking!

      • http://wrestlingfan.net RReigns121314

        Brie Bella is a bad booking!

    • CJ

      We don’t need Maryse back.

      • http://wrestlingfan.net RReigns121314

        Yes we do. Everything about her was great…… Miz scored lucky

  • Lance

    Naomi is kinda exciting to watch because she has a little bit of that high flying factor

    • totallyneccessary

      Totally overlooked once again…. I will also say that NXT talent does not translate in bigger arenas… Not one NXT star has proven otherwise

      • Lance

        Did they even mention her?
        She empresses every time she’s in the ring

        • totallyneccessary

          Nope I didnt see her mentioned… She is real solid and most still are missing it

          • Lance

            Yeah she’s slowed down and pacing herself I can tell she wants to be take seriously but with the tons of funk theme and gimmick she won’t

          • Sir William McCormick

            I appreciate Naomi. She is a decent hand.

        • Sir William McCormick

          I’ll admit. I neglected to mention Naomi, but doesn’t that say a lot as well?

      • Sir William McCormick

        AJ Lee, “Naomi”, Paige just to name a couple. The others I could mention came from FCW as well.

        • totallyneccessary

          AJ & Naomi styles adapted… and Paige is findind her way…

      • Kiran Sahonta

        bray wyatt and the shield

        • totallyneccessary

          The Shield & Bray Wyatt have been around since FCW…. Plus Bray’s run as Husky Harris could support my argument

        • Anrgy216.

          Remember Shield wasn’t the Shield in NXT as all three were doing their own things then. They debuted on the man roster as the Shield so technically that doesn’t count.

    • jrock2310

      she has zero personality. that’s why I prefer Cameron of the two.

      • totallyneccessary

        she like the most likable on TD, we haventt had a chance to see her personality on wwe TV at all…

        • Tevin Campbell #HBIC

          I can second this. Naomi seems so down to earth. If it’s down to wrestling Naomi takes the cake but when it comes to personality Cameron wins me over..but as someone said previously, you can’t show personality if WWE doesn’t let you.

          • jrock2310

            you’re saying WWE doesn’t want the best from their talent? WWE doesn’t want talent to bud & blossom? I get Naomi may not be given a ton of lines, but that’s typically the role of a baby face unless confronted. granted Naomi is the more talented wrestler…. but was steve austin the greatest wrestler? hulk hogan? they had charisma & personality. Austin stepping out & betting on himself to sell the character is what made him a star. WWE didn’t invent the SCSA persona. (& no, im not comparing Cameron to those guys) simply put, the WWE welcomes talent to gamble on themselves. its just unfortunate in the business of wrestling, it could ultimately cost u your career. & that’s why we don’t see a ton of change from people. they just don’t want to lose their job.

        • jrock2310

          im not talking about the TV show… im talking in-ring work. and its quite possible the WWE thrusted naomi into the baby face role so she wouldn’t have to be combative. because, imo, heels are typically more talkative, energetic, lively. whereas baby faces do most of their talking w/ their performances. that definitely sounds more like Cameron.

          • totallyneccessary

            I get you are impressed with Cameron or the kinda character she gets to bring to the ring… That is what Cameron is needed for… I just know Trinity as a person has a captivating personality that isnt reflected in her on-screen character… Her moveset is better on a Face and her value to the division is solely her athleticism… Its like Kelly Kelly & Beth you really cant judge them on the same playing field cause their purpose are different…. I Prefer Naomi over Cameron all day… but I understand why both are where they are so far…

      • Lance

        People assume you don’t have personality because you don’t have the opportunity to show it even when she was on NXT she showed personality

        • CJ

          Having no personality is why you don’t get to display any.

          • Lance

            I know she has personality and her time will come and She doesn’t look like a Boy in Elementary school so itll be something different from the divas in the spotlight today

          • CJ

            There is no Diva in the WWE who looks like a boy in elementary school. You sound like a racist. Do you hate Hispanic women?

          • Lance

            Are you assuming Hispanic women look like little kids I didn’t say a specific diva

          • CJ

            True. But, I know who you are talking about, and I suppose it makes you feel somehow superior to pick on woman for simply being 5 feet tall. I bet you are homophobe, too.

          • Lance

            Homophopic lol. you truly live up to your delusion. I didn’t kno you could read minds too.

          • CJ

            Not claiming that I can read minds. All that you have done regarding AJ Lee is talk shit about her at Diva Dirt. I’m certainly not the only one who sees it. It must be really sad to find yourself in a place in your life where you call yourself a man and make fun of a woman for being short.

          • Lance

            I find Aj entertaining one of my current favorites and aren’t Cameron and Aj the same height basically.you know I find it sad that’s someone is so obsessed with a wrestler they don’t know how mediocre they sound and everybody knows that when CJ comments it’s always something idiotic and something to laugh at

          • CJ

            So, you are just online looking for a fight like a typical troll. I don’t care whether or not you believe a f***ing thing I say. It isn’t going to change what I think. It is interesting how you are pretending to suddenly like AJ for the PWMania crowd though.

          • Lance

            I’ve always liked Aj since she was the queen of FCW I’ve stated on DD that I like Aj so don’t act like I’ve just started to put on act I like who I like and you like who you like but please don’t say I pretended because I call out any wrestler on their faults whether it’s only five moves they do our if they are sloppy in general

          • CJ

            You like her so much that she looks like an 8 year-old boy. Killer logic.

          • Lance

            Why 8? And why would I single her out when there are plenty of other divas the same size and don’t think you’re logic and my logic are the same

          • CJ

            I don’t. Clearly mine is better.

      • Dee Drak

        she has personality and she is a great wrestler!

        • jrock2310

          being nice & having a good smile is not personality.

          give me the first bit of evidence of personality…

          • Dee Drak

            If we choose to agree with your argument then neither is being mean, rude and having a scowl (mean mug). Her personality as a face demands that she is nice and smiles. Granted when she is in the ring (for eg. her matches with Paige and Cameron) she is more aggressive and showcases herself as a talent more. You may be someone who prefers heels and that is ok, but you can’t say she has no personality because she smiles and is nice.

          • jrock2310

            im aware that ‘faces fit into a role (which I stated clearly in the post below). but what does Naomi do to separate herself from the others? because while I grant u that she is a better wrestler than some of the other girls… it isn’t as if she’s head & shoulder above anyone else.

            at least in Cameron, she is fiery & a tad more edgier. I like that she has… for lack of a better term … some ‘hood rat’ in here. and I mean that in a complementary way when referring to Cameron as a heel.

          • Dee Drak

            Treating the term “hood rat” as a compliment? I am not so sure Cameron would feel the same way. Naomi separates herself from the other Divas when she is in the ring, NONE of the other Divas PRESENTLY bring as much wrestling skill and athleticism as she does. They bring hyper sexuality, crazy, and bitchy. What was the best Divas match in the last year? Naomi vs Paige @ MITB, where Naomi basically buried Paige, even though she lost. For some fans sex, crazy, hood and bitchy may be cool and they prefer this form of entertainment without the wrestling. I however prefer being entertained by in ring wrestling performances, like Lita, Molly Holly, Mickie James, Gail Kim, Jacqueline and Naomi.

          • jrock2310

            jesus Christ… Cameron is not that bad. have u seen eva? have u seen Layla, rosa? cameron def has a spot on the roster.

            (side note: Cameron can deliver a hell of a hurriacanrana when she wants to. something a lot of other divas never do).

            as far as heels go, I absolutely think ‘hood rat’ is sort of what Cameron was going for. she already has that feisty personality. and I think she is smart enough to go w/ what she knows she can do, rather that try to pretend or do something she is not comfortable with.
            and like I eluded to… she is playing a role. im not calling her a hood rat. only referencing to her amped up character. ariane andrew aka – Cameron – is a college graduate. I would never insult someone w/ her accomplishments & stature. I mean hell, she did make it to the WWE not knowing much about it before hand. all the props in the world to her.

          • Dee Drak

            Don’t have anything against Cameron, I like her. My arguments were based on your comments about Naomi at the beginning of this thread you introduced her to the conversation!

    • Dee Drak

      Naomi is as close as there is to an actual brawler in the Divas division. WWE needs to follow through with her title match. After her match with Paige at MITB they should have her win the title from AJ Lee. Honestly AJ Lee has good mic skills, but I am not really that impressed with her in-ring skills, but to her credit she has been a decent champ, I just think it is time for a change.

      • Jennifer Gentner

        I totally agree!

  • FearTheSpear

    This article is EVERYTHING that i have been thinking about the divas division. It’s absolute BS that the title has been overshadowed by TD and now this McMahon/Bella fued which is really one-sided.

    I have lacked any and all sympathy for either of the bellas in this fued & stephanie, although a great heel, is the 1carrying the fued & she isn’t even a wrestler. During SummerSlam ill be tuned in to Paige/AJ but brie/stephanie? Itll be my bathroom break

  • eXtremeAJ

    i totally agree with you!!!

  • totallyneccessary

    Have you noticed the argument is always for the next crop or the old crop…. I wish they utilized this crop better… AJ gets a lot of praise do to the same kinda of angle Brie is currently in… but AJ’s efforts in-ring arent enough for me, SHE IS EXCELLENT on the mic and on paper, but honestly what wrestling match deserves the buzz she gets? How come no one realize she hasnt given 2012 performance since 2012… but she’s maintained the benefit from it… I just think she MUST deliver a classic and I feel she has had the chances of 3 divas

    • Kaledrina

      yup, i’m so bored of seeing aj win a match with just 2 moves after being dominated the whole time -__-

      • Gavin Lopez

        The matches are laid out by agents/producers. AJ has little choice in how many moves she can do in a match. If you noticed, that’s the same way Paige was being booked after she won the Divas title. She would be beat up for the whole match, and hit one or two moves and win.

        That’s how WWE books their ‘top’ Divas to work a match.

        • Anrgy216.

          Pretty much. And like I said, in terms of determining what is a good match and what isn’t, moves don’t have as much of a factor as people think in the grand scheme of things.

      • Anrgy216.

        Movez(with a z) are overrated. matches are not about movez but purely what goes into the movez, i.e. psychology. Dean Ambrose himself in the past has said that this is a big reaosn why he doesn’t overdo his moveset because to him it’s irrelevant. Doesn’t many how many movez he does, but how well he can tell a story during the match.

        And it’s really hard to really say most of the divas “can’t wrestle” when they’re matches are usually within 1-2 mins. AJ/Natayla match at Main Event in March got 14 minutes and that was pretty good and that’s a good reference to show people their worth since both get the “overrated” label by certain circles.

      • CJ

        Get used to it. Her microphone ability has saved her and put her miles ahead. She is the John Cena of the Divas Division, and she DESERVES to be the John Cena of the Divas Division.

    • Sir William McCormick

      In 2012, she wasn’t wrestling. She has since, and that is how she delivers now. Are they technical masterpieces, no, but they draw because of the name.

  • Lance

    TBH Total Divas has brought attention to the division you can deny it if you want but its helped the division get focus with multiple storylines involved with the divas

    • Sir William McCormick

      I don’t deny the exposure. I deny that a reality show about wrestling without any wrestling isn’t helping anyone.

      • Lance

        It’s helping because without the show people wouldn’t know the personal relationships between the divas and without the show divas wouldn’t be in there position now from all the events leading up to now

    • Gavin Lopez

      Total Divas presents the women in a very negative light, basically as bitches who do nothing but drink and party all the time when they’re not working. The only one who seems even a little bit likeable on TD is Naomi.

      That show is reality trash, and aside from making WWE money from E! it really shouldn’t exist.

      • Lance

        If it didn’t we wouldn’t see Aj do her amazing pipebomb on them without the show we would still be have diva tags every week

        • Sir William McCormick

          You mean the pipebomb that they didn’t use to build that feud because it would have ruined the show.

          • Lance

            People didn’t care what AJ said enough for them to stop watching the show

          • Sir William McCormick

            This is the difference between the two kinds of wrestling fans there are.

          • Lance

            The ones that accept that its acting or the ones that take it to seriously and think its real life

          • Sir William McCormick

            More like the ones who give a damn, and the ones that just want to be selfishly entertained by anything.

          • Lance

            Give a damn about what??
            that Aj deserves to be in the Bella’s spot(even though Aj would do better in the position) or that its tv and entertainment for viewers

          • Sir William McCormick

            The industry of wrestling.

          • Lance

            I respect your opinion even if I disagree on some its a good read

          • Sir William McCormick

            As do I good sir, I see this as a discussion, not an argument. I think both matches are fine on their own. I just think there is a purity aspect to certain elements of telling a story through the wrestling medium.

          • Lance

            I can see where you’re coming from and I agree

          • FearTheSpear

            Accept*

          • Lance

            Thanks for giving me a spelling bee

          • Gavin Lopez

            Most of the Total Divas audience is made up of female reality show viewers who don’t watch any other WWE shows.

          • Dee Drak

            Honestly, I didn’t think the pipebomb was that good and AJ Lee has said all that stuff before. She needs new material. Maybe she should borrow the Rock’s writer!

        • CJ

          That’s not necessarily true. She’d be shitting on Torrie Wilson and Stacy Keibler instead because, aside from having nice boobies and pretty faces, they also brought no skill inside of a ring like most of the Total Divas.

      • CJ

        Agreed.

    • CJ

      I will deny it, because it is a complete load of garbage. Not one single woman on the show has any notable mic skill. They all could be replaced for this very reason. AJ is too good for that stupid show.

  • totallyneccessary

    I personally believe you are in a dire need to make stars outside of AJ, I think Paige being the only adversary is not a good thing either… Let’s imagine the WWE with one Championship, no midcard or tag title… with Cena as Champ 90% of year…. AJ is TOO PROTECTED!! I think the division has to ingest AJ at some point, She spend a year proving she was better than the division… She is bigger than the division… AJ has to LOSE some High profile matches or we wont see any progress…. unfortunately

    • Sir William McCormick

      That is exactly what NXT is doing. Also, why I claimed to look outward for talent. The logic isn’t should though. AJ spent a year beating everyone to come back and lose to those same people? This is why Paige and NXT are the future.

      • totallyneccessary

        Do you think the NXT talents are that much better? or is it the benefit of the NXT culture?…. I feel like Summer & Emma are shells of their former selves and I dont believe its regression of ability, I believe people underestimate the change between rosters… The lack of study, review, adjustment and development time on the road in comparison to Full Sail… & Because AJ got the best of them THAT time doesnt mean she will in the future, I think establishing the competitive nature is imperative, her 295 day reign was SO detrimental to the division its CRAZY… Plus she had alot of Cheap Heat wins… there no layla or tamina now either… The logic has to follow the empowerment of others & AJ’s desire to beat them without aid… if they could show that it would work

        • Sir William McCormick

          t’s the ring work. On NXT, the ladies get 15 minutes of in ring time of an hour show. They are essential to it. It’s not the “love of NXT”, its the way they are being built.

          AJ was a heel champion. Cheap wins were fine, and her character is crazy anyway. It wasn’t a perfect reign, but she had one feud with Kaitlyn and the rest was filler. That is my whole underlying point. There needs to be deeper competition.

          • totallyneccessary

            I agree…. I just think any of the NXT Divas moved to the Main Roster will seem worst because they will have to work in a completely different culture… they wont get 15 min matches… and most crowds wont be as smart or responsive as NXT…. That being said FCW talents were built in the same vein… not much difference… They just have more exposure in development and (un)fortunately everything about NXT makes the future look brighter…. even at the expense of the established

          • Sir William McCormick

            I agree with you totally. It is almost like the reset button on the whole thing. That can be great (Wyatt), undetermined (Dallas), or potentially bad (Rose). It’s a sink or swim situation which is what the business is all about to me. I’m glad you’re looking at it like that

          • Anrgy216.

            I always find it odd how many people don’t truly understand the difference between wrestling in a small environment to working to the rafters. Which would be from working at Full Sail to working at 17K in an arena. The reason these NXT guys don’t hit it off right away is for the fact that the people that watch NXT, which I assume would be the majority of us on here, is such a small minority to the whole WWE audience. The Network numbers too suggest they approximately get half of the viewers TNA gets and TNA isn’t seen as mainstream.

            Also in a lot of way it’s a matter of how things are presented. This Brie/Stephanie feud has people legit excited for it because it’s being presented as if it’s a big deal.

            And with say Emma this year they didn’t do anything to accommodate the majority of the WWE audience who don’t watch NXT and by proxy don’t know anything about Emma’s character. Of course the Santino rom-com esue relationship probably didn’t help matters either. But with Emma, no vignettes, no true explanation of exactly what she is(it’s actually a simple character but even still because majority doesn’t watch NXT, it’s new in most people’s eyes.) Same with paige during her babyface run. They didn’t give the majority the backstory about her background, her family, what she respents, yadda yadda. It’s almost as if when they debut these NXT gals(and guys) they just put them out there and expect them to succeed without a proper introduction and most of the times(like with Rose, Woods, Paige’s babyface run) it doesn’t work out as well as they plan.

    • CJ

      They need to make stars out themselves. Only AJ is good both in the ring and on the mic. It’s why she has the spot she does.

      • totallyneccessary

        Nawl… its favor of the people charge mostly

        • CJ

          She has the spot because the fans connect with her. You need to face the fact that the crowd is never going to connect with most of these women because they give the perception of just being happy to be on TV. They don’t tell the fans anything about passion and how they deserve to be champion. AJ and Paige do. So, the Bella Twins, Natalya, Alicia, Cam, Layla, Summer, Naomi and anyone I missed shall have a seat. They can’t hang with AJ or Paige.

          • totallyneccessary

            Oh Okay…. I will pretend pro wrestling is all about personal merit…. not by design… How did I miss that?…. I should never engage with someone who cant see their own bias BUT;… You dont know what their take is about “passion and how they deserve to be champion” Because the WWE by design hasnt allowed them to address that like Paige or AJ… They have no choice, its their job and they bite the bullet from people who have no idea and devalue the contributions & sacrifice they make by furthering perception of them just being happy to be on TV… Total Divas is edited to appease the E! crowd & There are other ways to just get on TV that dont include this travel or physical harm…. People Tout how much passion the other two have for the business… if you are CHOSEN (yes they are Chosen) to reap all the benefit why wouldnt you be passionate?… Real passion is giving it your all and making OTHERS look like a Million Bucks and being made to look less than to service someone else… Let’s see Paige & AJ deal with the booking Alicia Fox gets for half a year…. They would be gone like Kaitlyn….even if your statement was true, Natalya is all “about passion and how she deserve to be champion”…Natalya, The Bellas, & Naomi have all gotten Good solid POPs too, The music and production value have alot to do with that as well… Aj & Paige are solid valuable assets especially since they follow the same anti-“DIVA” blueprint & Anti-Heroes are popular in pro wrestling culture… but I think they idolatry should come with a footnote

          • CJ

            AJ and Paige will never get the the booking Alicia Fox gets because AJ is better on the mic than Alicia ever has been, and Alicia Fox has been champion already and never really got over like AJ did. Money talks. If Alicia Fox was the MVP player that her marks make her out to be, she would have AJ’s spot. She doesn’t. It’s all about money. That is a given. AJ is a draw. Alicia isn’t. That’s not AJ’s fault. That’s not even the WWE’s fault. Alicia doesn’t try to relate to the majority of the audience. Why should the majority of the audience try to relate to her?

          • totallyneccessary

            What is majority of the audience?…. WWE audience is pretty diverse but some demographics are just privileged by creative…. No one said Alicia was MVP, no one is contesting AJ’s Mic skills… She wouldnt have AJ’s spot because AJ cant tell the story Alicia tells and Alicia cant tell the story AJ does… but writers choose which story gets told… AJ got credit for being the Money… she was money but she was alone… If all the girls had merch together then you could make a big deal…. My issue is you ignore the hand creative has…. AJ doesnt shoot and go into business for herself… I understand she better than slice beard IYO… but its not by chance or with opposition, im telling you… Stop degrading everyone else to sell AJ

          • JJ♛ #MyLipGlossisPoppin

            Natalya can’t hang with AJ or Paige? The hell are you smoking?

            Natalya could wrestle in circles around all of the divas, and some men.

            If Paige didn’t have that “Anti-Diva” gimmick, she wouldn’t even receive this kind of positive treatment. She would be exactly where Emma is.

  • Marcus G.

    Great Article. All the points are right on the money. I get that some people think Total Divas has helped the Division but truthfully all it’s really done is get the Divas more time, that time however has been filled with a succession of Total Divas vs. Non Total Divas matches that were poorly executed and made fans tune out all together. Divas like Naomi, Natalya, Alicia Fox, and Tamina are who they can get some real traction with but these women are sorely underutilized and frequently get the background treatment. Prime example is the recent Alicia Fox “Mad Girl” gimmick. Say what you want but the girl was on fire and then all of a sudden……..nothing, back to obscurity for another talented Diva.

    Fact is some of the best Divas matches in WWE are the ones that fans like us who watch Raw and Smackdown every week will never get to see because they happen on the untelevised house shows and live events. We’ve heard this from many former talents like Mickie James and Beth Phoenix. The best matches that we’ve seen recently have gone down in NXT. The girls down there are the future but there are super talented woman on the current roster who can raise the bar as well if just given the chance. Hopefully after this Stephanie/Brie feud is over, the Division can focus on the things mentioned in Bill’s article.

    • Sir William McCormick

      I agree with everything you just said. However, I think we get Brie title reign eventually.

  • Perso

    The fact is if AJ and Brie were swapped in their places right now you wouldn’t be saying anything about how “It’s stupid that their feud main events over the title”. Your only argument is the perception you have against Brie and that AJ and Paige are “the two best wrestlers in the world”. That’s all this article is.

    • Sir William McCormick

      Uh nay, I’m selling one feud over another because it is holding its momentum on two levels rather than one person carrying the load. If Brie and AJ switched places, I’d still be arguing that the title should go on last, even if the feud is dramatically worse. Titles win out for me, so the fact that the better feud is being held down is hardly me having bias against or towards anyone. Trust me, I’d have plenty to say about Brie vs. Paige and Steph vs. AJ

      Paige is not the best wrestler in the world. I said their feud is about them having the perception of being the best.

      • Perso

        That’s pretty weak logic though. The WWE title I can understand, but to say the Divas title should be held on the same level as a main event level storyline just because they both include women.. I don’t see it. Stephanie vs Brie has merits to be on this high of a level because of all it’s connections to The Authority, Daniel Bryan, etc. AJ vs Paige is a big deal for the womens division but nothing else about it screams “main event”.

        • Sir William McCormick

          Why the hell not? That is the biggest title that division is going to have. The title is the main event for the women’s division. Why should it be looked down on like it is “only the women’s title” With that kind of logic and attitude towards it, the Divas Title can’t be anything but a glorified midcard title for the women, and that is bs good sir. That I do not agree with.

          I have no serious beef with Brie, I just think this is her chance to step up and she needs to step up. Steph vs. Brie is fine for what it is, but it’s the connections that are pushing the story there, not Brie. I don’t fault anyone for making something out of the pieces, but just acknowledge that it was forced together by an injury, lack of momentum and Stephanie’s mic skills.

          • Perso

            I’m not saying it doesn’t have the potential to be but in this case for the time being Brie/Steph is a major storyline. Just because they’re all women doesn’t mean that they automatically have to elevate AJ/Paige to that same level (although it would be amazing if they could). It’s like if DX came back to wrestle against Daniel Bryan and a returning CM Punk, is anyone going to complain about a tag team match of that caliber being treated as a top priority over whatever the tag team title feud is? Again, it would be incredible if WWE has the ability to make all their feuds feel as important as the other but that’s not how it is, some matches just have bigger appeals to them.

            I think Brie has stepped up pretty well for the short time this has been going on (considering how weak she was before). Her interview with Michael Cole was pretty damn good, if she could deliver more like that with better material from the writers this would feel more even (although no one can touch Steph on the mic).

          • Sir William McCormick

            I feel ya, dog. I can see what you’re saying. Sometimes feuds take on a life of their own. Sometimes having a title doesn’t matter, if the story is different. I understand that, but there are certain drops in quality that cant help but be noticed.

          • Anrgy216.

            For what it’s worth I see both points and people probably discredit Perso’s points but he’s not technically wrong. If I got this correctly, he’s basically saying having great matches doesn’t truly equate to main storyline status. if that’s the case, he’s right about that. I also see Will’s point about the feud and BTW I think the article’s solid. I enjoyed it.

          • Sir William McCormick

            Thank you very much. It was a blast to write.

            Eh, basically what Perso is saying from my perspective is sometimes the fates choose how a match feels. The momentum of the match isn’t planned, is it takes on a life of it’s own. The ability to push what feuds how far is limited. It ultimately comes down to things outside of everyone’s control, and all we can do is keep up.

  • gigatech007

    Brie’s really not as bad as you make her out to be

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0vTiMB48mE

    • Guest

      On the mic, she has been outperformed by a mile. In the ring, Brie is a decent hand. I never dumped on her in ring performance. The thing is pairing a decent hand with a non wrestler will most likely factor into a match with little chemistry, and ring psychology. Someone has to be a wonderful wrestler to carry a non wrestler into a good match. Brie is fine, but she isn’t better than good to carry Stephanie to anything more than an average match

    • Guest

      Okay, AJ Lee is a better wrestler because there have been numerous examples where she has told real stories with her in ring work. It’s about the stories and it is also about drawing power. As we will see on Sunday, a good match doesn’t have to be technically sound. It can be sloppy as I stated in the article. I can think of no examples where the Bellas have elevated the division in terms of drawing power and for the fans enthusiasm. AJ Lee is one of the best of all time because she uses her size in the ring to show better in ring skill than sticking to a few key moves. She’s not a great wrestler, but she is good enough at that and everything else she does, so it is not a distraction. The Bellas don’t have that.

      • gigatech007

        The only time any diva gets to tell a real story is when WWE books them in a proper story and that’s rare. The Bellas haven’t really been given that opportunity, I think this feud with Stephanie is actually the only real feud they’ve had to work with, whereas AJ has been put in plenty of big match situations. Aside from that Aj and The Bellas usually work the similar story of the typical heel playing mind games, taking short cuts, working a body part, etc. Next Sunday both diva matches will have good stories to go off of so we’ll see.

        The Bellas are actually the biggest draws outside of WWE for the divas. They’re the ones that draw the most mainstream appeal and attention which is why they’re the ones doing the most interviews and asked to be apart of events like Miss USA, Kids Choice Awards, Teens Choice Awards, Larry King, and other talk/tv shows.

        I don’t know if I got that last point right but AJ does stick to her few same moves and doesn’t expand beyond that. Even as a face she still does all her same heel moves just mixed with some of her old face moves.

        • Sir William McCormick Esq

          The difference here is narrative. So, because AJ has the ability to tell stories and the Bellas haven’t yet, it is unfair to judge the Bellas on storytelling ability because I haven’t seen it yet. That is folly good sir. I’m not saying physically that AJ and Bellas are that different, but in terms of psychology, character and telling stories, they are in different worlds. Drawing power is great, but some of us judge wrestlers by the stories they tell in the ring, and not if they win Teen Choice Awards.

          My point is AJ on paper shouldn’t compete, but she does because of the atmosphere and believability of her in ring work. The Bellas are fine hands, but what I’m shitting on Brie for in the article is being outperformed on the mic by a mile by Stephanie. The ring is where Brie needs to thrive just like Stephanie is the one who needs to thrive in the build-up. That is how the Bellas tell a good story. AJ has it covered because she has a defined narrative that an audience can follow. The Bellas are forming that narrative right now. We’ll see where that goes. Both stories have a place on the programming, my beef is making the Divas’ title look amateurish because it’s focus is neglected because the Bellas can’t get over on their own accord by just telling stories in the ring.

        • CJ

          The Bellas have no personality, even if they had skill. Why bother to push them. Promoting TD is the only excuse I can muster.

    • Sir William McCormick

      Just fyi, I did this conversation.

      Okay, that video does a really solid job of making your point. Here is why AJ is better than either of the Bellas. Saying that, they haven’t been given the opportunity to do the same things is a cop out. That is like saying, well they would have been better if they had been given the chance. Yet, I can name you plenty of decent AJ matches, promos an moments, but I struggle to think of any for the Bellas with the exception of the last year. I’m not a Bella hater at all, I just don’t think a division should be given to them when others are taking it from them over and over again. That is why people think the Bellas suck. If they are on the same level, physically and mentally and everything else, why aren’t they running the division?

    • CJ

      Nice propaganda video. The Bella Twins and Eva Marie are not wrestlers. They do not deserve to take up time on WWE television.

  • Shaun 2

    lol at aj being better than trish lita molly holly jazz Victoria or Mickie James

    • CJ

      lol all you want because she shred every last one of them on the mic

      • JJ♛ #MyLipGlossisPoppin

        Wrestling-wise? We know that’s a lie. The biggest lie in the book.

  • Bestinyourgirl

    Divas was the only thing keeping me watching, recently. WWE needs better writers.

  • bakayaro_konoyaro666

    “let me talk to ya” why did they release Slate Randall?

    • Sir William McCormick Esq

      Hey, thanks for noticing. I’m starting every one of my articles like that from now on. That catchphrase is too awesome to ignore.

  • Bobby Calloway

    Naomi could be that Lita type – she’s easily the most exciting and athletic Diva in the ring. Alexa Bliss on NXT is a former gymnast and cheerleader and with a couple more years could easily become that exciting must-see high flyer. The reason that there haven’t really been any ‘explosive’ types in the division for ages (though Melina and Kelly Kelly did the odd high spot) is because management would not let them. Melina and Michelle McCool were told off for doing a high spot that was ‘too high risk’ and ‘looked better than some of the guys’. Likewise Gail Kim and Jillian Hall would sometimes have to sneak high spots past the agents into their matches. A lot of the women on the roster are still from the Johnny Ace era where the Divas had to be girly.

  • http://twitter.com/xfoxylicious xFoxylicious.

    I praise you sir.
    AJ, Paige, Alicia, Natalya, Tamina and Naomi should be the ones being used.
    Add Layla in there too.
    Summer and Cam can keep improving (especially Cam…)
    While Eva’s period hair needs to gtfo…. either fire her or put her as a manager for someone (I liked the Bellas/Eva pairing).

  • CJ

    Excellent article.