Matt Cardona Wants To Prove He Can Be Successful Without AEW Or WWE

Matt Cardona recently appeared on an episode of the Swerve City podcast, where he talked about a number of topics including how if Tony Khan or Triple H called him, he would most definitely have a conversation with them.

Cardona said, โ€œI was talking with Chelsea [Chelsea Green], and Iโ€™m going to name drop John Cena. John was asking Chelsea, โ€˜what is the difference between this run and the last run?โ€™ Chelsea said, โ€˜Now, I can turn it off. I can go and do Raw and when Iโ€™m home, Iโ€™m home.โ€™ As opposed to last time, when she was in NXT, the PC was with her brain. A couple of days later, Iโ€™m pitching some spot for an Indie show, and she said, โ€˜You used to be able to turn it off.โ€™ โ€˜Yeah, youโ€™re right.โ€™ In WWE, there are only three things I can control. Now, I can control everything. My brain is always going. These past three years, I donโ€™t care how you define success, accolades, money, happiness. In my opinion, which is the only one that matters, Iโ€™ve been the most successful in my career. If Tony Khan or Triple H called me today, of course I would have the conversation. Iโ€™d be lying if I said, โ€˜I never want to wrestle on pay-per-view again,โ€™ or wrestle Madison Square Garden again or walk into Target or WalMart and see my action figure on the shelf. Iโ€™d be lying.โ€

Cardona also talked about how he wants to prove he can be successful without AEW or WWE.

โ€œAt the same time, I donโ€™t want to go to AEW or WWE just to be a guy on the roster. Nothing against that, but Iโ€™ve been there and done that. Back in the day, when I started the YouTube show, as it got further along and I realized what I was trying to do, I kind of wanted to prove that you bet on yourself, you can get yourself over, you can get yourself noticed. Now, I want to prove, AEW and WWE, number one and two, itโ€™s debatable which is one and two, Iโ€™m not saying theyโ€™re not, but I want to prove you can be a successful pro wrestler without them. At the same time, Iโ€™m not saying if Tony Khan called, I wouldnโ€™t pick up. Of course not. Tony! Whatโ€™s up man!? You need me for Collision? Or if Triple H called or Vince [Vince McMahon] called. Right now, my goal is not to get back there. My goal is, how big can I make this? I donโ€™t know. I hate to say the sky is the limit, but it kind of is. I didnโ€™t have handcuffs on me before, but if I did, theyโ€™re off. I can take this and whether it be with my podcast or a wrestling figure company, how high can I go? Weโ€™ll see. Thatโ€™s the challenge and thatโ€™s the fun part.โ€

You can check out the complete podcast in the video below.

(H/T to Fightful for transcribing the above quotes)